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Taking the Leap: How Mary Ragano Bought Her First Investment Property

• Zach and Patrick • Season 2 • Episode 27

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In Episode 27 of The Rent-ish Podcast, Zach and Patrick sit down with Mary Ragano, Senior Marketing Leader at Innago and a real estate investor who dove into the market with zero prior experience. By day, Mary helps landlords and property managers streamline their rental businesses with intuitive software, but when it came to her own journey, she had to learn the ropes firsthand.

Tune in as Mary shares the story of her very first property: what sparked her interest in real estate, the challenges she faced as a beginner, and the key lessons she walked away with. Whether you’re just thinking about buying your first property or already managing a growing portfolio, this episode is full of relatable insights and takeaways you won’t want to miss.

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SPEAKER_01:

What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the Rentish Podcast Season 2. I'm Zach, and I'm here with my co-host, Patrick. We're two rookies chasing the dream of real estate investing. In this podcast, we'll talk about property management, wild stories, and everything in between. We don't know it all yet. But that's the point. We're learning as we go, just like you. We'll bring in the experts to educate and inform us, and we'll figure it out together. So let's laugh, learn, and dive into real estate side-by-side, Patrick. Let's get started. What up? Oh, you snuck in a what up. I'd say you're two for two now. Two episodes deep. You got the intro done. First take. I think we don't need to do it again. Yeah, no, we're good. I think you nailed it. We're maturing and growing and I'm happy to watch your maturity. It's harder to memorize than what up, I will say. My whole line. I've got lines now. They're trusting me with lines. When the producers came to us with this whole thing, they gave you the script and you were like, oh no. I have to Say things now? What's my problem? Patrick, how is your day going? You're working on a little lime seltzer over there. Good, yeah. No, I had my coffee already. But you've already caffeinated up. You're ready to talk about real estate and property management. I'm ready. Okay. Yeah. Because we've got a very special guest. I know. She's sitting right here. She is sitting right here. And we're about to acknowledge her starting now. So we're going to do one of our favorite segments of the first season. We're going to introduce it for the second season. It's called My First Property. And today... We're going to explore how real estate professionals, even those outside the typical investor mold, took their first leap into property ownership. Today's guest is someone whose day job is all about helping landlords and property managers succeed, but who also knows what it's like to take that first step herself. And we're joined by Mary Regano, who is a senior marketing leader at Enago, where she spends her days helping landlords and property managers across the country simplify their rental business through powerful, intuitive software. But behind the marketing mindset is a real estate investor who does decided to jump in without any experience. In this episode, we're diving into Mary's very first property, what sparked her interest, how she navigated the process, and the lessons that she learned. Mary, welcome to the podcast.

SPEAKER_00:

Thanks so much, guys. Happy to be

SPEAKER_01:

here. Patrick gave a little applause. Can you pick this up on the mics? Can you pick up the golf applause? Okay, we'll get the soundboard and do a natural proper. Welcome to the show. This is for hardcore listeners of The Rent It. Do we have fan names yet? Renties? The renties? I like that, the renties. So hardcore renties may know, the producers like that one too. Hardcore renties may know from the first season that Mary was on one of our very first episodes a couple times because she was helping us out with the real estate games that we played. Did you bring any games today?

SPEAKER_00:

I did not. I was not

SPEAKER_01:

prepped for that. Oh man, okay, that's okay. Next time. The producers, they were like, we can't.

UNKNOWN:

We can't.

SPEAKER_01:

We can't be too fun. They said, we'll bring you back in one condition. No more games. No more games. No, you helped us out last season, learned some real estate terminology, but now you're here to kind of share a little bit about you and your backstory and where you come from and what makes you tick.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, I am. Okay,

SPEAKER_01:

cool. Well, share with us a little bit about who you are. We'd love to know. I'm sure that Patrick and I will have some questions for you along the way, but tell us about your journey into real estate and property management. What brought you here?

SPEAKER_00:

Sure. So I started investing in properties in, I think it was 2019. So what's that, six years ago?

SPEAKER_01:

Jesus. that's math yeah yeah sorry not to be dramatic that is six years ago that's crazy wow that was a real jump scare

SPEAKER_00:

for you six years ago um i started investing in real estate and there was no like i had no prior experience no prior knowledge um just kind of found a building that worked well and that we were interested in and we got really lucky we still We still own it today and it's been, we own more, but we still own the first building that we ever bought. And yeah, it's been a great, great experience so far.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Well, I mean, you work closely with landlords and property managers and your role at Anago. So I guess where, where did that passion come from? Like what made you want to become one yourself?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, for me, I think it's really, there were, I guess two sides. There's like the creative, like romantic side. And then there's the like very financial and functional side. So from the financial front, functional side. I think I just very quickly learned that relying exclusively on a W-2 as income was probably not going to get me to my goals as quickly as I wanted to. And I wanted just more financial freedom. And so I started looking into all sorts of different avenues for investing. So stock market, and I hated it. I started looking into like side jobs. I did all sorts. I just looked into different things that I could do beyond just like the day jobs that I had and really just kind of got into real estate through my brother. He was the one who started talking to me a lot about just where the potential was and I think at first I thought there was this big hurdle that you needed all this money in order to get into it and he's the one that really showed me that if you play your cards right and do things in a smart way that you don't always need that much money up front and that it's a lot more attainable than I think I originally thought so that was a big part of it and then the other side of me was so we bought our first property in Cincinnati in OTR which is where we actually are currently And the

SPEAKER_01:

Rentish Studios over the Rhine. Yeah,

SPEAKER_00:

just like so when I was growing up, this was an area that I never went to as a kid. And when I graduated from college and came down here and again, visited my brother as he was living down here, I was just blown away by everything that they were doing and how they were keeping the like the history of all the buildings and the facades. But they were just really like finishing them up and making them nicer. And, you know, everybody was moving down here and there were so many businesses that were and I just like wanted to be part of it. So I think it was really that combination that gave me the confidence to like jump in

SPEAKER_01:

with both feet. And question for you, were you, so when you bought the rental property, were you living in Cincinnati at the time?

SPEAKER_00:

I was not.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. So how did that, how did that work? Like doing a first time rental investment in a place you weren't living?

SPEAKER_00:

Man, I got really lucky because the first one really did go quite smoothly. I say that having now gone through ones that did not go smoothly. So I can say with confidence that it went very smoothly and Yeah, I don't know. So I didn't invest alone. So I invested with my siblings. Again, my brother, who originally had introduced me to the idea of real estate investing, and then my other brother. So the three of us went in on it together. And so they both lived in Cincinnati. So that helped. And I was living in Chicago at the time. And so I think having some boots on the ground and some people that I trusted that were going to be there and driving by the property every week or every day, checking in on it, made it so it felt way more feasible Right. And

SPEAKER_01:

another question, because I think that's surprised me about some of the people that we've talked to who bought their first rental property is many of them were still renting themselves. Did you, were you also in that situation where you were renting the property you were living in, but bought a property? Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And that's interesting. Yes, I was renting and then we bought this property. So we bought this property and my one, so again, it was the three of us and my one brother actually moved into the property and that allowed us to get better loan terms which i'm sure lots of people have talked about that have been on here it's it's i'm such a proponent of house hacking the only thing i wish i had done differently is done it earlier okay there's just so much more opportunity and so yeah so that made it really feasible but no the rest of us were my other brother and i were both renting at the time that we bought our first property so it wasn't until a couple years later that i actually bought my first place in chicago so gotcha

SPEAKER_01:

yeah well now we've had two guests on the show that that have done that same thing, the renting in a property, buying an investment property. So that's more proof for you, buddy. You can do it yourself. Yeah, exactly. I've been hearing, because you think like, okay, before you buy a rental property, you have to own the property you live in, which doesn't seem like that has to be the case. Oftentimes it isn't. That seemed conventional wisdom to us, though. Like for me, at least growing up, it was like, oh, your first property should be one that you buy that you live in. But now it's like, that's so not the case that, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I think, you know, if I were, so you definitely Definitely don't have to. If I were to do it a different way and to buy my first property, I would still do the house hacking because I just think that there's so much opportunity with that. You can have somebody else that effectively covers your mortgage for you. And so as long as you can cover the down payment, there's just very little risk in doing it that way.

SPEAKER_01:

And just as a refresher with that whole house hacking term, I know we covered it last season, but for newer listeners and those of us that may have forgotten exactly what that means. It's been a long summer break.

SPEAKER_00:

Definitely not you.

SPEAKER_01:

Not me, no. I think I remember what it means. Can I guess?

SPEAKER_00:

Sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Is that where you live in a property and rent out another portion of that property to somebody else?

SPEAKER_00:

Correct, yep. So some people do it where they might buy a three-bedroom apartment and they rent out one of the bedrooms. So they rent it out to their friends. A lot of people will do that, especially if you're young and you're single. Other people, like the first one that we house outside of the property that my brother lived in. My husband and I actually house hacked in Chicago and we bought a duplex. So we lived in one of the apartments and we rented out the other apartment.

SPEAKER_01:

So that's like that specifically is something you're a major proponent of. Yes. Like, OK,

SPEAKER_00:

huge because it's a it's a it's a quicker way to acquire more and more properties. And so what you'll see is some investors do is they'll especially if you start, you know, earlier in life, you can jump from property to property. So like you go, you have to live in the property for a year and you probably want to live in the property like stay stationary for a year so you go out you buy the property you start house hacking you live there for a year then you can go on and get your next property and you get renters for that existing one and it's a way to build out your portfolio in a very affordable way because when you do when you buy it and you're going to live in it you're not required to put as much down as you do an investment property requires a 20% minimum down payment

SPEAKER_01:

but when you're living in it you get the FHA loan or whatever

SPEAKER_00:

it's right exactly so then you can now there's like Look at you

SPEAKER_01:

pulling the letters out of your pocket like

SPEAKER_00:

that. People listening might be like, well, FHA doesn't always apply. And that's fair. There's limits and there's certain things that can restrict you on it. But there's again, there's just a lot more opportunity when it's seen as a purchase that's intended for personal use and not for business use. And so it gives you a lot more flexibility. You can also get better like construction loan terms. So if you buy a place that needs to be renovated, you can do that a little bit easier. So there's just a lot more opportunity if it's a place that you're actually going to live in.

SPEAKER_01:

Got it. Well, tell us a little bit, speaking of the place itself. So your first investment property, tell us about the place. Why was it that location? Other than the fact that it was just over the Rhine and it's a cool

SPEAKER_00:

area.

SPEAKER_01:

But was there anything else about the building, anything about the style of the place that you ended up landing on that made you want to go there?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so we had looked at a couple and we talked about it for like a year. It took us a long time to pull the trigger on it. And I think, again, because there was just this scary hurdle of like, can we do this? Like, this seems like a lot. Like, we don't know anything about real estate. Like, what are we doing? And so we'd been looking for a while and I would say all different types of places. We looked at condos, we looked at buildings. And this one, honestly, I think what really pulled the trigger on this one is I remember walking through the building and we had a real estate agent and I believe her name was Linda. She walked us through the building and there was another group that was walking through the building at the same time of us with a different real estate agent. And the real estate agent kept pointing out all these issues with the building because it was a good we were like this is a great place like for the area we were so excited and he starts pointing out all these issues with the building to the to the people who's walking through us and he was like you don't get this building there's a mess there there's a mess there this is going to cost you a fortune this is a like a money pit and our Linda our real estate agent turned to us and she whispered and she goes this guy doesn't know what he's talking about and he said I'll explain when we get outside and so we got outside and she was like all those things that he pointed out are valid like they need to be fixed but she's like they're not going to cost the type of money that he's talking about. This is a great investment. There's so much potential here. And I think we just like trusted Linda and did it. And we were like, this is really like, we got to jump on this one. And yeah, I feel like it was like one of those just like stars aligned. And we were like, let's try it. And we threw out an offer that we were like, we felt confident in. It was definitely below asking, but we were like, let's just see, like, let's see if we can even like get them to like play ball with us. And they did. And so then that's kind of

SPEAKER_01:

how

SPEAKER_00:

it, all because of Linda.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. And was, and Linda was right. Like the fixes didn't end up

SPEAKER_00:

costing. And Linda was right. Wow. Okay. We got to have Linda

SPEAKER_01:

on the pod. Hashtag Linda was right. Get that trending.

SPEAKER_00:

She knew what she was talking about. So it ended up working. We also did after all of that, I shouldn't just say, we were like, we just said Linda and then we just did it. We had, we knew some contractors. We had them walk through the building with us. And so we started to firm up quotes. We built out like a pro form. We did all the right stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But we, she's really what made us like, maybe we should look at this one. Like maybe we should get a little bit more serious about it.

SPEAKER_01:

This question might sound negative.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Going through the entire process of looking for an investment property, getting excited about it, finding this, giving an offer that you think is a good offer that you believe in, but it was lower than the asking price and getting accepted. Does that feel like a rare Pokemon now than compared to when it did when you originally bought the property?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. You know, it's now I've gone through the process of buying investment properties and buying my house that I live in. And I think those two are very different scenarios. For an investment property, for all of our investment properties, we focus on buildings that we want to renovate because we feel like we have the most opportunity to negotiate and get the types of deals that we want. And now that we've done it enough times, we feel like we have enough comfort in doing it that way, bringing the value back to the building and then renting it out. So we feel like that's where we can get the most bang for our buck, I guess. So we've had good success with that. I will say, though, on the reverse side, buying a house for myself, I certainly was not able to have the same type of negotiating power that I did with like trying to buy investment property. So I think the deals are still out there. You just have to be willing to sometimes take a little bit of a risk. If the property is in perfect condition, that's the place that everyone wants, right? If it needs no work, if it doesn't need a creative eye or whatever, that's where everyone's going after. And so those ones aren't going to go significantly under asking. But the one that like, you know, there's some issues and yeah, it's going to take a little elbow grease and stuff. Those are the ones where the best example I have is there's so many people that sell properties that don't clean them. So then you have buyers walking through and they're like, this place is dirty. There's so many issues with it. And really there aren't. It's just some people have trouble seeing past that.

SPEAKER_01:

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00:

And so we always find a lot of opportunity with that. If the person looks like they've kind of just let it, you know, run amok, sometimes it's really not in that bad a condition. It just needs a good coat of paint, clean, and you can get a pretty good deal on those ones too.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Okay. So yeah, quick question. Something that you said made me just think of this. So, and like the last part, it's kind of not necessarily what I'm asking about, but like a property that needs more like actual work, like more money to fix important things. Obviously like you could get like a lower price on the property for it, but that price that you would be paying in renovation isn't included in like mortgage payments, right? Like you have to pay that upfront. So is that something like that you really have to consider? Like, let's say there's like a property that you get a really good deal on, but it requires so much money in renovations that you can't afford that. Whereas you might be able to afford a property that's more expensive, but you can, you don't have to do as many renovations and don't have to do as big of a down payment essentially.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Absolutely. I mean, all those things have to be factored in and you can get construction loans. And the nice thing about when you do an FHA is you can get what's you to roll your construction loan into your home mortgage loan and the reason that's beneficial is because construction loans carry much higher interest rates than like a traditional home loan so there's opportunities to like get creative again with your financing but yes you're exactly right there could be times where you'd rather buy the smaller condo unit that's in good condition or the smaller building that's again in good condition and doesn't need as much because you don't have as much cash up front but you can cover them mortgage payments, or there might be times when you're like, you know, we've got a little bit of cash. We can put it in, we can make the renovations and we can make this worth a lot more money than it's worth or get higher rent payments. And we're going to go that route. It just, it does depend on your, on your situation. And I've had partners for most of my, most of the buildings that we've bought. And so that helps a lot because you're spreading the risk out among more than just one person.

SPEAKER_01:

Sure. Cool. Well, speaking of construction, you had your search, you talked to Linda, Linda rocks, you got the place. What, what challenges did you face that maybe you didn't really expect to face? Because you said that it went very smooth and you're lucky for it going very smooth, but certainly there must have been some things that were roadblocks along the way and any hurdles that came up along the process.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, on the first one, again, like I said, I mean, man, we got lucky because it really was relatively smooth. I think the biggest hurdle that we faced was that because of the area that we bought in, there were certain historical requirements. So they weren't necessarily like, you didn't need it for the structure of the building or for any other purpose. other than that it was just a requirement due to like the historical nature of the building right so we had to make some changes to certain things and one of the things that we had to do was we had to get special windows and our contractors ordered those late and right now as I'm saying it I'm like it was a really minor issue but at the time it felt really big because again like this was my first investment and you know it wasn't like you know we had money tied up in it and you're like oh my god like the contractors made a massive mistake they forgot to order the windows on time and on honestly ultimately it put us back like two months it really wasn't the end of the world but we had to wait until those came in because we couldn't start renting it out until we got the new windows in and we could install them right um and so honestly that was really the biggest with our first building that was really the biggest hiccup that we faced right out of the gate now we had issues with tenants later on we've had issues with other buildings down the road you occasionally get a unicorn like that where things go smoothly and we just got lucky that it was our first building But I've certainly had issues since. It has not always gone that smoothly.

SPEAKER_01:

Was it smooth with the closing process then? Like right before that too, like nothing you wish you would have negotiated for or anything?

SPEAKER_00:

No, again, we got really lucky. So the people that owned the building were out-of-state investors and they had just made a lot of like really, like for lack of a better way of saying it, kind of dumb mistakes. They had just like, they were out of town. They weren't doing a good job of keeping up with the contractors. So the contractors were kind of taking shortcuts. And then again, some of that stuff that I was just describing, like not expensive. things but just historical requirements they were totally oblivious to so they hadn't done it right so there were just a lot of like just dumb things that they were doing and so they were really eager to get it off their hands and so that gave us a lot of negotiating power and so we just came back and you know when we did the inspection we came back and knocked off for certain things and again even out of the gate we we came in on I think we went back and forth maybe they came back with a different price and then we came back and we met somewhere in the middle And that's where we ultimately netted out. But no, honestly, that one was, it really went quite, like I said, quite smoothly.

SPEAKER_01:

That's cool. I mean, that gives certain hope for people listening, people like us. I cannot guarantee that it will always go that way. Oh, I know, for sure. I was going to say, I know this episode is more about your first property, but what's one of the bigger issues that you had with a property that you bought afterwards?

SPEAKER_00:

We bought a property that was, again, another renovation, probably a bigger renovation than And then the first one that we had bought and our contractor went AWOL halfway through the project with our money. And it was like a chunk of money. And so that was a huge issue. So yeah, that was very scary and very like, are we ever like what we had moments in that one where we asked ourselves, like, should we just cut our losses and sell this? Like this is like, and just try to make back any portion of what we've put into it. And we ultimately, we found a new contractor. We had our hurdles even with that contract. contractor and we ultimately did get it rented but we bought the property with the expect expectation of it taking I think four months is what we had like earmarked in terms of renovations and it took two years oh wow so and again like we lost a lot of money with that first contractor and never got it back

SPEAKER_01:

wow so what's so

SPEAKER_00:

not to scare I mean I think this is about like first time buying and like you can do it and you can everyone that's talked

SPEAKER_01:

about first time buying is has run into like some kind of hurt. So these are things that people need to be aware of. That's kind of, cause I, yeah, that could have, you got, like you said, you got lucky with your first time, but it could have been worse. So I guess like, what's something that you learned from that experience that if another first time buyer ran into that on their first time, like that you would tell them as advice or like something you learned?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, there's a couple of things. So one is I think on, in terms of things we did well, again, we, I never bought by myself. So we spread the costs out among a couple of us and that really helped because while you were investing money and it sure it was a chunk of money it wasn't nothing it wasn't like I put my savings into this and it was this like very risky thing it spread it a little bit yeah which I think especially when you're newer to it and you don't you haven't built up the experience to know what you're doing it's a it's a safer way to do it when you kind of you're not going to get as much return because you're splitting with people but at least you give yourself a bit of a safety net right so I would do you know for anyone who's interested if you can find people that you trust and that you want to work with it's a great way to like jump I can see Patrick looking over at you. You and

SPEAKER_01:

me, you and me. We talked

SPEAKER_00:

about it before.

SPEAKER_01:

I heard they're looking for a new buyer at Carew Tower. You want to go 50-50 on that bad boy? Turn it into a recording studio? I'm going to reopen

SPEAKER_00:

the observations. I can see the wheels turning over there. Like, oh, that's all I have to do. If I find someone, I'll

SPEAKER_01:

do it.

SPEAKER_00:

It'll be crazy, though. So I think that was one big learning. And again, something that we did, that we actually did do well. The thing that we didn't do well, and I'm almost embarrassed to say it, because saying it out loud, you're like, yeah, no, duh. No. Be smart. But we actually didn't have a contract with our contractor. And that's one thing that I learned is so often, again, you don't know anything when you're going into it. And these contractors come to you and they know everything, right? Like they've done this a million times. And so you kind of just follow their lead. And so he kind of like, we met him. He seemed fine. I mean, he was like, he wasn't my favorite person in the world, but he was fine. Like he was a contractor. He was knowledgeable. He was available, which was a huge piece of it. So we just sort of followed his lead on things. And there's things that going back we should have done better and that was one thing like get a contract that says projects will be done by this or like you know payments will be allocated in such a way because what happened is when he ran away with the money we had no legal recourse we went and got a lawyer because we were like how do we we got to get our money back and we had no there was no contract so the guy had kind of pulled one over us there was basically

SPEAKER_01:

like no proof that you had hired him essentially

SPEAKER_00:

well no there's proof that we had hired him but but technically he could just say I'm still working on it but it had been months since he had been at the property so there was no way to like enforce it because we had not put anything in writing so it was truly like this unenforceable issue and so if I were to go back I would just be a lot more strict with things like that and I would I think again you just kind of are like okay like just tell me what to do like tell me where to sign and I had heard before like don't pay the contractors until they do the work and they had done the work they told us it was done but we didn't go and really like bring an inspector through or check it. And so, yeah, there were just, it was just silly things that like, again, they're almost embarrassing to say, but that's

SPEAKER_01:

good to know. Like, I wouldn't think of that though. You know, if it was my first time, I'll be like, this guy knows everything.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Like, Oh, this is, and we, we did, I shouldn't say that. We signed a contract. There were just, it was a very like flimsy contract. There were no dates assigned to it. There was no recourse. Like what happens if you're unhappy with a product? Like there's so many more and you can look up online, there's free contracts out there, or you can, again, you can pay for legal resources to put something together for you and we should have done that but so we had a contract it just was a

SPEAKER_01:

not enough yeah i see okay well that is a good word of warning i think to a lot of people and

SPEAKER_00:

yeah get a contract

SPEAKER_01:

get a contract get a

SPEAKER_00:

contract

SPEAKER_01:

and if you can't it like legal like hiring a lawyer might be like out of the out of the budget for a lot of people but there's a lot of good online

SPEAKER_00:

resources and ai is super helpful okay shout out to

SPEAKER_01:

ai Little did you know, Patrick and I are AI this whole time. You've just been listening to two robots talk on this podcast for two seasons. All right. I'm sure we'll have you back at some point, Mary, to talk about further on in your career and what you've done with other properties and other challenges, hurdles, stories, and stuff like that. Patrick, did you have any last-minute questions that you wanted to ask Mary about? No, I feel like I'm learning. You know what I mean? I know that's the point of the podcast, but I feel like you have people on and we talk about stuff and it's just kind of like, oh, yeah, whatever. We're just doing it. but then now in the second season it's like oh like I remember things and the more that Mary tells me about her experience it's like I learn new things but I already like have enough knowledge to where like it's kind of like all coming together and I feel I don't know it feels good I mean you pulled that acronym right out of there you're so confident too it's awesome

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and I will say like that's how it is even buying your properties like now that I own multiple again I can look back and be like that was so stupid you only know what you don't know once you get past it you know like once you're in the future you can look back and be like man I knew nothing I guess that's the thing is like nobody really knows what they're doing you kind of just jump in and you figure it out as you go and you get smarter with each one and with each year that passes and with each experience and there's nothing if you're sitting around waiting for like well I just gotta get this much knowledge or I gotta read these books or I gotta do this like you will never feel prepared there was nothing that will ever prepare you you just gotta do it and then you learn

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I don't think we can say anything more profound than that so I think we're gonna go ahead and just end it right here See you guys. We're going to just end the show. Thank you guys for listening to another episode of the Rentish Podcast. Thank you, Mary Regano, for joining us on this episode. It's been fun to talk with you. We did this for a few of our other interviewees and I think we're going to keep this tradition alive just as a fun conversation. What's your favorite movie of all time? Patrick and I are movie guys and so we talk about movies and go back and forth stuff on the podcast. One of your favorite movies of all time. You don't have to say the best of the best. You

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guys, this is so embarrassing because I don't even know. And you guys are movie guys. and it's going to be some really embarrassing. There's nothing embarrassing. You know

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what's more embarrassing is pretending like you like a movie that you actually don't like. Or that I've never seen. I love that movie. It could be a Pixar movie. It could be Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo is awesome. I was about to say you got beef against Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo is a great movie. I'm just saying it seems like you're leading. You better pick Finding Nemo. It could be one of those. It could be like an old fun action movie, Christmas movie. I'm like, it's anything, not just like the best of the best.

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I would say the movies that give me the most nostalgia are obviously the Harry Potter series because I feel like you hear that music and you're like, okay, it's Christmas

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time.

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I was really obsessed for a long time with the movie He's Just Not That Into You, which is like a romantic comedy. I have not

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seen it.

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Oh my God. I have not seen it either. You're not missing anything. It's really not worth it. But I was really, that's like the last time I remember being like obsessed with a movie and watching it multiple times other than that man

SPEAKER_01:

she's just not that into you I'll ask my girlfriend about it and then we'll probably watch

SPEAKER_00:

it so maybe I shouldn't ask her that's the way to do it is watch it yeah watch it with your girlfriend but yeah probably that and then now I just live the life of yeah Disney movies and Pixar movies and Paw Patrol so

SPEAKER_01:

alright cool well stay tuned for the next episode of the Rentish podcast where Patrick talks about she's not that into you but yeah thank you Thank you guys for listening to another episode of the show. As a reminder, follow us at TheRentishPod on socials. You can go to questions at TheRentishPod.com if you have a question, a comment, a topic suggestion, or just a fun interviewee thing that you want to hear us ask our next guest about. You can email those questions there. Don't forget if you're listening on Spotify or Apple Podcasts to give us a review. Take that star and just drag it as far as it'll go to the right-hand side of your screen. Leave us a comment. We'd appreciate you very, very much for listening. Until next time, I've been Zach That's been Patrick. That's been Mary. And we'll see you guys next time.