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Episode 25 – Season Finale: Jurassic Park Visitor Center & High-Stakes Showings

• Zach and Patrick • Season 1 • Episode 25

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For our Season 1 finale, Zach and Pat go big...dinosaur big. 🦖

First up in Real Estate Reel, we step through the towering doors of the Jurassic Park Visitor Center to uncover the real-life filming locations, wild behind-the-scenes facts, and what it would actually cost to build this cinematic icon today. From its resort-inspired architecture to its pop culture legacy, this fictional property has more real-world influence than you might think.

Then in this week’s Real Estate Horror Story, we follow an agent and their clients into a showing gone sideways, think hit-and-run suspect, armed officer, and a property that suddenly doesn’t feel so worth touring. It’s a true test of where the line is between “great cash flow potential” and “too much risk.”

We wrap Season 1 with laughs, questions only real estate die-hards would debate, and a promise: We’ll be back for Season 2.

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What's going on, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Rentish Podcast. My name is Zach, and I'm here with my co-host, Patrick. What up? We are your hosts for this Rentish Podcast, a podcast that's kind of about rental properties and hosted by two guys that work in the real estate industry and sort of know what they're talking about. But sort of don't. Oh. That's nice. Switch it up. Yeah. We're starting to wind down this season of The Rentish. We're going to go on a little hiatus for a couple weeks. Maybe time to retire the catchphrase. Get you a new catchphrase. We... Well, because we know a little bit what we're talking about. We do know a little bit. So maybe you could say, we know a little. Or something like that. For season two. For season two. Season two, bigger budget. I heard the podcast is going to be executive produced by A24 or something like that. Sort of, they don't. Sort of, don't. Sort of, don't. Sort of, don't. It was mostly we don't. Mostly we don't. As we've continued on with the podcast, I feel like we know a little bit more. So we went from mostly to sort of. Eventually we're going to have to change the whole intro to be like two guys that are freaking experts and know everything about real estate. That they will come. Well, mostly we don't. Somewhat we don't. What did you say? Sort of. Sort of we don't? Yeah. But I think you're going to have fun listening to us talk to experts, learn along with us, or just laugh along at how little we know. Follow us, subscribe on your podcast feed of choice. You can go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts. Rate us, review us, comment, give us a like, thumbs up, whatever it is. Tell us that you love the show. Email questions at therentishpod.com and follow us on social media at therentishpod on Instagram. I know it would make our producer, Musee, very happy. He loves those followers, those sweet, sweet Insta followers. I love it a lot. That was the most enthused he's ever been on this show. Where'd that volume come from? Tell you what, if we get to 100 followers on Instagram, we'll do a solo Musée show. It'll be 30 minutes of just Musée talking at the microphone. No prompts, no questions, just his inner monologue. That sounds unhinged.

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We gotta get a

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lawyer

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because we're gonna get so many people suing us.

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It's going to be a good episode. We've got a real estate reel where we talk about the history of property or like a fun thing from movies or television. And we're going to talk about Jurassic Park. I'm excited about that. Tease that a little bit. Real estate horror story. We've got a real estate horror story that we're going to go through today. And then we also have listener questions. So it's going to be nice and easy breezy, lemon squeezy, which means there's more time at the very beginning for us to kind of BS around. Yeah. How you doing? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. Is that it? Yeah, let's get right into it. All right. Welcome to Real Estate Real, where we explore the most iconic properties from movies and TV. And we break down the real world locations, values, and design inspirations behind them. Today, we're stepping through the massive double doors of the Jurassic Park Visitor Center. Yeah. Thank you. That was good. Yes. A towering open area. Wow, what a statement. The most famous lobby in cinematic. Can you think of any more famous lobbies, Patrick? That's probably the one. It's like that one, and it's like the lobby from Elf when he gets kicked out of the Empire State Building. He was in the Empire State Building? Okay, so yeah. Was Buddy the Elf. Empire State Building. It's been so long since I've seen that movie. Yeah, he goes to see his dad in the Empire State Building. And he gets thrown out. With Peter Dinklage? Is it that scene? Well, it's one of those scenes. Okay. James Caan. Yeah, I remember he's in it. What, you're not an elf guy? No. It's fine. All right. We want that on the record that Patrick said. It's fine. It's fine. The beloved Christmas movie Elf is fine, apparently. It's fine. It's been a while since I've seen it. Maybe I should rewatch. Maybe we'll do an episode about it this Christmas around the holidays. We'll do the Empire State Building lobby. The Empire State Building from Elf. Well, today we're talking about dinos. Dino DNA. And we're going to talk about Jurassic Park. The Jurassic Park Visitor Center. You got a picture pulled up there, Pat? No. Was I supposed to? Yeah, I think so. I can, yeah, I can get one. It's got the big, I mean, let me do from my memory, okay? Yeah, yeah. Can you pull up the picture and I'm going to guess what it looked like? Okay, so there was, there's, like, the T-Rex statue, and then there's, like, the banner that says, it's what says when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, or something along those lines. You nailed it. It's got some plants up front, and then it's got, like, this kind of, like, winding staircase. It's, like, kind of, like, a half circle going up from the bottom right to the top left. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty much all I remember. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of got that, like, rounded kind of ceiling. I mean, like, this is probably, this is, like, the shot of them, like, pulling up from the outside or whatever, but, like, when you get into the Inside, this is the shot that everyone thinks of. It's like the main T-Rex bones in the middle of the visitor's center. I kinda crushed that. Yeah, you did crush that. Well done. So, Jurassic Park. Where does this land on the pantheon of movies for Patrick? Okay, for me, this is a top three Spielberg movie. Really? I love Jurassic Park. I think it's amazing. I think the storytelling is great. I think the concept is great. I think, for example, the T-Rex bridge scene is one of the most intense scenes that I think that's out there. And it's just kind of got that movie magic. On top of being super intense, it's also just like a dinosaur. And it looks like a real legitimate dinosaur. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a terrific, terrific movie. And it's actually one of like four movies that my mom likes. Really? Okay. Yeah, that and the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy. That's so random. Every time I show her a movie, she's like, I mean, it was okay. It's no At World's End. Pirates of the Caribbean, At World's End. You know me, I like Pirates of the Caribbean. I like Jurassic Park. And those are the only two movies she ever references. Jeez. Tough critic. Yeah, right. Tough critic, tough critic. What are your thoughts on Jurassic Park? It's a good movie. It's it's honestly it's one of those where it's like, you know, I understand. I really like the movie. And every few years I'll go back and revisit it. But it's like I'm always I'm like this. So this is the this is the movie that. everyone loves oh wow this is the movie like this is the movie that makes like the billion dollars in the box office and everyone loves this franchise I'm like it's it's good who said anything about franchise well I'm just saying like people love the Jurassic Park IP so much that they keep going to the theater and seeing these movies it's like You know, I think this movie's really fun, really entertaining. I love Goldblum. Love me some vintage Goldblum, too. Samuel L. Jackson's great in it, too. Yep, Samuel L.''s great, and so is Wayne Knight. Wayne Knight's good, yeah. Friggin' Newman. There's so many good little bits of comedy. Spare no expense, he's like the old dude. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, I think that one of the best strengths of the movie is the set design and production design of, like, the island. And the lobby. And the lobby. So, like, to tie The movie is set in the fictional Isla Nublar, which is near Costa Rica. The Visitor's Center was the grand... Yeah, the island is fictional. Costa Rica is a real place. Did you know that? I thought it was created for Jurassic Park this whole time. The Visitor's Center was the grand entrance to the dinosaur theme park, a high-tech welcome center for VIPs and tourists. So was this an actual building or just a set? Where was it filmed? Can you still visit it? All of these questions and more. will be answered right now. In real life, the exterior was filmed at the Valley House Plantation Estate in Kauai, Hawaii, which is a lush, privately owned estate that provided the perfect, untouched jungle backdrop. Patrick. Yeah. I've been there. Really? Yeah. Yeah, when I was in high school, a buddy of mine got accepted in to University of Hawaii to go study IT. And he wasn't super serious about actually going to the University of Hawaii, but he was like, we should go visit the college so that we can take off school and claim that it was a college campus visit. So that was how we got out of a week of school and went on a trip to Hawaii. Me and a couple friends went to Oahu and we got to tour the campus of the University of Hawaii, but we also just got to go do a bunch of fun tours Yeah. the heavy tree and forest areas of the middle of the big island. But it's cool. I mean, they have like a gift shop and kind of like a ranch where they have a bunch of Jurassic Park merchandise and movie props and stuff. Do they still have like the big gates and stuff? No. All that stuff was fabricated for the movie, unfortunately. But yeah, it's a cool place. I'd recommend it if you ever go to Hawaii. It's just a very pretty place. So the interior, while the exterior was filmed at the Plantation Estate, the interior was shot on a soundstage in Los Angeles. Sorry to remove some of the mystique from the... the movie for you there but yeah it was fully built sets like the rotunda staircase and the lab corridors man but it's a beautiful set it is a great sometimes I wonder like how much money like a building a set would cost that's a good question it's just like why don't you just find like a real a real place you know and rent it out how much do you think the production so production budgets on movies nowadays out of control yeah right how much do you think Jurassic Park cost to make do you want to yeah do you want to fact check us on this one too producer me say? Quit slacking and cleaning your glasses and get on the internet. I am going to guess 1993. I might be low-balling it, though. I'm going to guess$90,000.$90,000? It was an indie student film. We sold a couple cars. Hold on. I don't want to see the number yet. You interject. You'll get a mic for a reason.$90 million. I'm going to low-ball it even more and say I think it's like 62 million. Okay. What is it? Musée? 63 million. Oh! You looked that up ahead of time. I did not. That is crazy. Swear to God. I'm just on another level right now. You have no idea. Wow. Okay. Isn't that crazy, though? I mean, it's still a lot of money, but when you compare it to, like, you know, movies today, you know, like, for example, Pirates of the Caribbean costing, like, you know, four. Like$200 million. Yeah, at least. But it's, like, I mean, like, adjusted for inflation. I don't know what that's going to be like. Yeah, that's true. Because, you know,$63 million back in the 90s is certainly a lot more than it today. Right.

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For the box office, they hit$1.058 billion.

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I knew it was in the billion-dollar club. I didn't know that. But that's, like, accumulative. They've re-released Jurassic Park now. every other weekend. So it's like literally they re-released that movie so much. I wonder, you know. But seriously,$63 million to put together this beautiful movie. I mean, that's the one thing you can't argue against is that like the island is beautiful, the visitor center is awesome and so detailed. That's an iconic shot in Hollywood history. All the dinosaur design and production as well. I mean, it's cool. It's a very stunning looking movie. I'm looking here at one of the fun facts. The set alone for the visitor center cost$1.5 million to build. Just the visitor center? Yeah. They definitely took a lot of... and pride in building that set. Yeah. 1.6, is that what you said? 1.5.

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1.5, so... And also in today's dollars, that$63 million would be$140 million. Okay, so that's more

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along... More along the lines of current movie productions for blockbusters, yeah. But... So theoretically,$1.5 million to be able to make this set for the visitor center. Theoretically, someone today, some rich millionaire could recreate the visitor center. Minus the diners. Minus the real life. Yeah. Minus all that. And put it on Vrba or whatever and rent it out for someone to stay. So what do you think? What would it cost to rent out the visitor's center? Well, I'm seeing here that like in the estimated cost– so it's different because it's$1.5 million, but that's a Hollywood set. Yeah, right. So like the estimated cost if the thing was actually real. Like actually like in Hawaii real for a 25,000 to 30,000 square foot custom tropical modern architecture for like what the visitor center was would be 15 to$25 million. So if like, if it was like an actual, okay. So, I mean, with the, you know, museum grade exhibits and animatronics and labs and tech stuff, it's going to 40 to$60 million. So if we're taking that into account, are you asking like how much it would actually be to rent for a weekend? Sure.$25 million. It's like, I'll pay for this in cash. Do you take check?$25 million house. Can I pay for this in PayPal paid for? Do you guys accept Klarna? They're like the IOUs from Dumb and Dumber. All right. Some other fun facts about the building. The original structure built for filming was destroyed by Hurricane Iniki just weeks after shooting Wrapped in 1992. I didn't know that. So that's probably why the original filming structure is not in Oahu anymore. That would make sense. But you can still hike to the filming site on Kauai where fans leave makeshift tributes like toy dinosaurs and mini signs. Oh, that's fun. Uh, the helipad and Jeep road scenes are nearby and they still regular are still regularly used in Hollywood productions. Okay. So yeah, again, like the tropical set, you know, the place itself quite cost quite a bit to make, but for the movie, you know, it's a really nicely done set. And then the interior just done on the soundstage in LA. Okay. All right. Any, any thoughts on the rent? How much, how much we would pay to have to rent this place for the weekend for the weekend?

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I'm going to guess. Do we have an answer? I don't have an answer. I think we're just spitballing here. I would say, realistically, I feel like it would be, for the weekend,$5,000 to$10,000. You think a few thousand dollars a night is the rough going of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would probably guess like around five, five to ten. Yeah, five to seven maybe. All right. What do you think? I don't know. I mean, I'm coming at this from a very specific angle, but I was just on the phone with my rental company for my wedding and for a weekend for the place that I'm renting. Let's just say that I think I'd be paying more for Isla Nublar. Okay. If that were the case. Oh, okay. So I'm actually going to go a little bit higher. I think it's probably... For the novelty of it, I would say like$5,000 to$6,000 a night. A night. Okay. I think that's probably the going rate. Gotcha. So you're thinking more like$10,000 to$15,000. So

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according to ChatGPT. The most trusted source on the internet. ChatGPT. Because there's not really a– you can't really like rent it out. But it said that it could be$10,000 to$25,000 per day. Per day. Holy

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moly. Okay. Scratch that. We were just trying to, we were looking at that very optimistically. Yeah, right. All right, so the visitor center is imagined as a sprawling two-story structure with central rotunda, symmetrical staircases, and a high thatch-style dome ceiling supported by massive pillars. This is just a sentence summarized way of your beautiful description from earlier, Patrick. Some of the imagined features include the central atrium with fossil displays, educational theater, hashtag dino DNA, which we got right there, the restaurant gift shop, viewing labs and security control rooms, and the back of house research and medical areas. Want to give a special shout out to Universal Studios Orlando because you can go on the Jurassic Park roller coaster there. the Raptor rollercoaster. I think it's... There's a couple. There's the water ride with the animatronics. The rollercoaster one is the one that I recently went on when I went there. And when you exit, you know how you exit through the gift shop and a lot of those kind of places? The exit you go through is this giant food court, but it's a circular building and it's themed after Jurassic Park, so all the tables have the... The whole building place kind of looks like you're in the Jurassic Park visitor's center area, where it's got There's like labs, windows that look into fake labs and like gift shops and stuff like that. So pretty cool. But yeah, the fossil displays including the T-Rex and Alamosaurus. I looked that up. That's the long neck. Oh, really? Which I've heard it as a brachiosaurus or brontosaurus, but that's like the same thing, basically. I don't know. Well, all the fossil displays were built from fiberglass and foam. So just some intense set decoration right there. I mean, like the attention to detail to sculpt that stuff out of fiberglass. Pretty nuts. And the rotunda design was loosely inspired by the Natural History Museum and resort lobbies, especially those in tropical climates. Spielberg wanted the architecture to feel both awe-inspiring and ominous, which is a symbol of the man's hubris. Or a symbol of man's hubris, not the man. Sorry, Spielberg, didn't want to call you out there. Yeah, all right, so cost to build we got here on the document. Look at this, 25,000 to 30,000 square foot of custom tropical modern architecture, roughly 15 million to 25 million. Adding museum-grade exhibits, animatronics, labs, and tech features is probably closer to 40 to 60 million dollars. And then we got budget and stuff like that. I covered that. Here's the last question I want to end on. Would you visit Jurassic Park if it were real? That is a great question. That is an amazing question. Oh, man. Because from every single Jurassic Park movie that exists, they're wanting me to say no. You're going to have a bad time. They're wanting me to say I'm going to get eaten. With that said, I probably would. You would go? Yes. Would you? Fuck. I almost cursed. No. Absolutely not. Dinosaurs are sharks with legs, and sharks are terrifying. I don't want to be in open air and have the fear that a pterodactyl is going to come down and just pick me up and eat me or drop me on something. They should just do the nice dinosaurs, like the veggie eaters. Are the longnecks or veggies? Yeah, the triceratops. I think maybe even stegosaurus, you know? But imagine, it's like one wrong rock, homeboy trips, curse flat. And then it's like he just flattened an entire tourist group into pancakes. Yeah, they're in cages. I'm not going on a safari with dinosaurs. I'm talking about... Well, they drive around in the Jeeps and they got the diamonds out. That's a good point. They're just out there chilling. That's a good point. It's like they didn't start putting them into cages until Jurassic World. So on the one hand, like, yeah, danger. On the other hand, dinos. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I'm more scared of that. I'll let you, I'll just like observe. I'll be like, that's cool. Glad it exists. If one dinosaur sets foot off that island and starts making its way to the continental United States, nuclear bomb. Whoa. You're not messing around. Nope. We don't need– so we don't need– you know how the Lazarus lizards are a thing in Cincinnati? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Some rich kid brings lizards that are not native to Cincinnati, lets them loose, and then they start breeding and multiplying, and now Cincinnati has the lizards for whatever reason, which are totally random. That would be what happens. Someone carries a dino egg home, and then all of a sudden we've got T-Rexes walking around the streets of Cincinnati, and I'm not down with that. Yeah, I'm not either, but that wasn't the question. Okay. Yeah, I still wouldn't go. Okay. Wouldn't go. To finalize the draft. So let's get into the real estate horror story. Patrick, I think it's your turn. Okay. Story from Reddit. Username is BillionaireStatus17. I'm reading the story now. You read the story. This is the story. Give us some enthusiasm, too. Give me animated Patrick. I'm driving my investor clients to show a rough... Why do they spell rough like that? R-U-F-F? He couldn't even read a full sentence. I'm driving my investor clients to show a rough property in your typical rough area. We were down the street from a property and pulled up to a hit and run, seemed like the car was also stolen. An officer was running down the street with a gun in his hand, trying to find the guy, but we couldn't see anyone in sight. We cautiously drove past the officer and continued down the road to show the property. As we continued down the street, we noticed a guy bolting through people's yards away from where the scene was, pretty far from where we saw the cop. My client suggested to slow down so we can get a clear description of him and wanted me to follow him. I slowed down but didn't follow for our safety. We turned the corner to where the property was and started to dial 911. As I turned into the driveway and parked, I see the guy run across the street and coming towards us. I quickly reversed out and drove away. We quickly drove back to the scene where the cop was. We waved him down, quickly explained what we were... doing and where we saw him. He got into his car and we sped up where we saw him last. He wasn't there and wasn't in sight, so the cop continued down the street to try and find him. We were left by the property and I was supposed to show. I looked at my clients and knowing that people were already breaking into the property, we all agreed to pass. Yeah, quite a story. I mean, would you consider buying a property in an area like that if the price and the cash flow were great? No, I personally wouldn't. You know, that's just kind of you're going to show a property. And in that moment, there's a break in happening. I'm not I don't think it's worth the risk. I mean, the interesting thing is, it's like they're driving the clients to go see the place. They obviously have people that were interested in the property. But so it's like I'm imagining it's like just a normal. I mean, it says rough part of town, rough property in a typical rough area. But you still had interested clients. It's like. Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know. I don't know. It's like, I guess there's a house for everybody. There's somebody, there's some people who might not care about stuff like that. Yeah. You know. What do you think about the term? So this is a real estate term. I would love to talk to like some of our pro experts that come on the show regularly about this. One phrase I've been hearing a lot recently in the real estate world is when you're looking to buy a property or buy a house or whatever, you should buy the best house on the worst street. Really? Yeah. What do you think about that phrase? Best house. You should buy the best house on the worst street. Implying that it's like property prices consistently rise, places change and grow over time. Uh, so it's like, theoretically, if you would buy the best house on the worst street, your price could inflate and you could get a better investment over time because you're, you're paying low at the very beginning to buy a house on a street that people don't really want to live at. But in 10, 15, 20 years, if you hold onto that investment, it ends up being more lucrative. That actually as a long-term investment, that makes a lot of sense. Now as a renter, I would rather, I would rather live in a, in a not amazing property in a nice area. That's me personally. I completely see the point of the long-term investment there. He does talk about my investor clients. Do we think that these clients were here to buy the property to live in it or just to buy it as an investment? Investor clients makes me think as buyers because I think he would have just said applicants or potential renters. Investment clients makes it pretty clear. Maybe they should have been a little bit more informed about the area that this could be a possibility Yeah. Or maybe they see all this happen and they're like, gold mine. We can get this so cheap and it'll be worth so much. That's the other thing is I think that there is a market for buying houses in not so great areas because it's like you hope that the value increases over time. Yeah. Neighborhoods change. I mean, we see that every day in Cincinnati. It's like a rapidly changing place. But I don't know. What about you, Mr. Property Owner, Moussey Producer? Would you buy a rough house or a good house on a rough street?

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Well, I feel like rough is not– it's subjective. That's also very true. Yes. I feel like a lot of like maybe rich, wealthy people might– come to the neighborhood I live in and think, oh my gosh, it's rough. But rough is different for me. If I saw that, and then I would ask more questions like, does this happen usually? Is the crime around here just, I don't know, random car break-ins? Or is it violent? All those questions. I feel like the neighborhood I live in, I don't think people would I wouldn't say they don't want to live there, but they would be like, oh, that seems rough, but it's not really rough.

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Yeah. That's a great point because I live in the north side neighborhood of Cincinnati, which is generally a nice place to live in the city. I think it's well regarded by a lot of people in Cincinnati, but literally two blocks away from where my house is, someone's Honda got straight jacked in the middle of the night. They broke in and hotwired it and stole the car. And I saw a drug deal the other day straight up two cars stopped right at each other handed something out the window the thing and then just kept on going right right near where i live so it's like Yeah, like you said, it's totally subjective. Even saying all that, I would buy a house on my street like that in no time flat if I could afford it. But it's like a rich, wealthy, well-to-do person or hoity-toity, whatever it is. I'm just gonna keep insulting people. No, no, no, we value you clients, rich clients. Come listen to our podcast. If they saw that stuff go down in my neighborhood, even though the houses are nice and my neighbors are nice and it's a great neighborhood with a lot of real great stuff to do they might turn that away because they'll be like oh I saw a drug deal that place is rough I don't want to get involved in that so yeah it is totally subjective that's a good point I remember going on a spring break trip in college with one of my friends. We met one of our friends in another friend group in Charleston. We were in Charleston. I remember the Airbnb we were staying at. I thought it was nice. I thought it was a cool area. Some of the people in the group were freaking out. We're in a horrible part of town. Who chose this Airbnb? My friend was like, what are they talking about? This looks like the street I grew up on. It was just kind of crazy to me that some people were just In Charleston, too. Exactly. I've been to Charleston many times. It's a nice place. I was so confused by it. They're like, lock all the windows, close the blinds, lock the doors. And I'm just like, what? I was so unbelievably confused. What would you want to know about a neighborhood before even visiting a property? So let's put you in the shoes of these investors. Maybe you're not necessarily buying an investment property. You could be buying a property for yourself to live in. What are the key attributes of a neighborhood to especially in terms of like, do you look at the crime rate? Do you look at that kind of stuff when you're looking for a property? I mean, I don't, like, so I live in Over the Rhine, right? And it's just like, it's definitely... has more crime than some other like neighborhoods in Cincinnati. Yeah. I don't feel unsafe here. Like, I feel like it would, for me, it would take like a really, really like rough neighborhood where I would like, like walking on the street, like in, in broad daylight and being uncomfortable, which I feel like is not, it's kind of tough for me to like, like, I feel like crime is, isn't necessarily something that I've thought about when looking at places. What I'm looking at more of is, like, is there stuff to do? And, you know, is there, like, restaurants? Is there bars? Is there, like, a park? And I feel like the things in the areas is more what draws me in. But, yeah, I can't say that, like, unless there's, like, violent crime happening all the time, like, yeah, I'm not going to want to live there. I feel like, I don't know, I generally wouldn't look at that kind of neighborhood anyways, maybe. Yeah, I wouldn't really look at that data either, but I also kind of like know the area. I know that I'm very familiar with the, like the neighborhoods of, of my city of Cincinnati, but it's like, if I was going to buy a property, like, let's just say I got like a job offer in California and I was going to move to the other side of the country. I would probably want to do a little bit of research like that to get some statistic information about those neighborhoods. Um, but I'd be going in blind, but it's like, if I'm buying a house in, in my, in my hometown where I plan on buying a house, it's like, I kind of know the general vibe of the different neighborhoods. I don't know before you buy a house. But your place, let me say, did you do any kind of research on crime rate or the neighborhood statistics, anything like that?

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Yeah, I'm similar to you. I know a lot of the neighborhoods in Cincinnati. The biggest thing, though, is I always wanted to be able to walk because I walk. So if I can walk in the neighborhood at peace, then I feel like it's safe enough. I get that there's stuff that happens at night every now and then, maybe a car break-in or a SWAT team called but outside of that i think if i can walk in the neighborhood and then i know some people really take the school district thing a big deal so they look into if this is like a good school district yeah and then they base that off of to like how safe it is like and uh but i think definitely look up the crime in the area like there's like scales online that show you like this ranks this in the city or blah, blah, blah. But sometimes it doesn't give an accurate display of the area. So it's kind of like both like you got to test it out. Always like walk around in the neighborhood, I feel like. I feel like a vibe check,

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honestly, is one of the best, you know, rather than looking at online data. Just go into the neighborhood, walk around. Are you comfortable? That's a very official real estate term. A vibe check. And the real estate terminology that's up there with like arm and one of the lines that made me laugh it was as we continue down the street we noticed the guy bolting through people's yards so he's like he's like broke down criminal like Ferris Bueller like running through jumping on a trampoline over the it's like going through like the back of the yeah so that made me laugh quite a bit but okay well thank you story from reddit and thank you for digging deep into the bowels of the social medias. Hold on. I just want to read the last question on here. I don't know if you came up with this one. Should real estate agents or investors carry some kind of protection? I think every real estate agent should carry a pair of nunchucks just in case.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01:

I guess I've never really thought about that. Is it a common practice for real estate agents to have a concealed carry? No, I don't think

SPEAKER_00:

so. My realtor actually is funny because I would ask him about the neighborhoods and stuff. There was like times we would knock on doors and I hear a dog, right? And it's like raging. The dog is raging. And I'm thinking, oh, like... The person in the home will take the dog out if they're showing us the property. Half the time they didn't. And so one time he opened the door and I was like, you sure? It sounds like the dog is like right there. And he was like, no, it's fine. He opened the door and the dog came at him and he closed the door so fast. That was just like a funny. So then I asked him, does this happen often? He was like, no, this is my first time. And then the next three homes we saw, dogs.

SPEAKER_01:

First time, sure. So then maybe not a concealed carry, but maybe some treats. Like a milk bone or something like that in your pocket. A dog toy. Come on, everybody. Come on. Sit. Stay. Stay. It's got me saved by the leg. It's dragging me around.

SPEAKER_00:

All right. For this segment, we only have one listener question in. Oh, wait.

SPEAKER_01:

That's it? He just transitioned us right away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Send more questions. Yeah,

SPEAKER_01:

email questions at therentishpod.com. Listener questions, mailbag. All right, Moussey's leading the topic now.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey, yeah. Brandon from Pittsburgh. When is it actually worth hiring a property manager? I've been managing on my own, but I'm starting to burn out. So when is the right time or Yeah. When is the right time to hire? When is it actually worth hiring a property manager? Worth hiring?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I feel like it's going to be a different answer for everybody, you know? Yeah. If you can manage yourself, I mean, that's a huge, you'll save a lot of money, right? And you can do that on the software, you know? Like Inago. Like Inago, for example, yes. For example. You know, make things easier for you. Yeah, it is going to differ based on the person. I would say you know your limits. I mean, just like it is with anything else. Like, when you need to reach out for help, whether it's like with work or with personal tasks or, you know, home repairs or work life stuff, anything like if you get to a point where it's like becoming overwhelming or a burden, like at some point you need to reach out for help. And in the real estate world, reaching out for help can be hiring a property manager. And I think that another big thing is like you have to look at the financial ramifications of that as well. Like you should probably shouldn't hire a property manager if you have one unit. Right. Right. Because it's like even if you're too busy to deal with that, the money that you're about to lose for paying that property manager for that single unit is probably not worth, not worth a dollar. Like you, you've got to actually make sure that you, your money is going to a good place and is like not just being thrown at someone to help fix your problem for you. Like if you can handle it yourself or reach out to other people for help, like, so I don't know, that would be my answer. I mean, would you, you're, I mean, I keep asking the property, the actual property owner in the room, but it's like, have there been moments where you're like, I wish I had a property manager right now?

SPEAKER_00:

When the unit is vacant, yes. I'm like, oh man, I wish somebody could just find these people. But if you're doing a, like if you have a nine to five and then you have maybe 10, 15 units, I feel like a property manager would be good because they could be on it. I'll find you tenants.

SPEAKER_01:

For a fee. For a nominal fee. I'll help you out. We're going to do this together. I'm going to get you some tenants. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I'll give you$10.

SPEAKER_01:

$10 a tenant? I'm kidding. I'm kidding.$10 a tenant. Do I do that?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. No, that's really low.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm scamming you, man, at that point. He wants to help out a friend. That's a movie ticket. I could see Superman more. All right. Thank you guys for listening to this episode of The Rentish Pod. We appreciate each and every one of you for hanging out with us on this fun little brisk afternoon show that we did here. Nice and easy. Had a lot of fun. Did you have a good time? I had so much fun. That's good. That's good. Well, if you are having fun out there, you can follow us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and any place you get your podcasts. Just give us a like. Give us a subscribe. Hit the notification bell so that you can be notified when new episodes drop. Email questions at therentishpod.com and follow us on social media at The Rentish Pod. And thank you guys so much for listening. I've been Zach. That's been Patrick. And we'll see you guys next time.